@Grungie: My only goal at the moment is to study there because I can go to a prestigious school and live there all for the cost of tuition alone at an average out of state school. Given my family's outrageous spending there is a 50% chance I'm stuck in Arizona but I'm still going to try. It would be pathetic if I didn't have to fight for it, right?
I'm more intent on getting out of Arizona than I am living in Britain; however, there are many things that appeal to me there, so if I'm going to leave I might as well do it right. If I don't want to stay I can just come back.
@Phils: I would probably see some tourist trap stuff but it wouldn't be my priority. Yes, you can talk to people everywhere, but you aren't going to understand the true nature of a place just by going to the famous landmarks and such.
I just have a bad taste in my mouth with people who are intent on moving to a far away city/country. I always see that they have some idealized vision of how it'll be to live there, and after they get their taste of being a tourist, they'll go back to feeling that their regular lives and back to complaining about the mundainness of it.
(07-11-2013, 04:28 AM)Grungie Wrote: [ -> ]I just have a bad taste in my mouth with people who are intent on moving to a far away city/country. I always see that they have some idealized vision of how it'll be to live there, and after they get their taste of being a tourist, they'll go back to feeling that their regular lives and back to complaining about the mundainness of it.
I was expecting this response, and I can assure you that's not me. I am already aware of all the stupid shit over there, and obviously everywhere becomes mundane after more than a week. I am not content where I am though, and I am expecting to feel mundane/average/pissed off about stuff no matter where I am.
Edit: Also, this has been building up for a while and I didn't decide to actually push for it until I realised I could go to a prestigious school for relatively 'cheap'. It's not like I just decided I wanted to live in Buckingham Palace or something.
@cockatooey Yea, I know what you mean. I mean, I would't avoid people. It just wouldn't be my priority, haha
@grungie. I don't really get it either. I really don't see much of a difference between America, Canada, Great Britain, and a few other European countries. They all just seem so similar. Like you said, once you get over that honeymoon period I don't think your life would be very different between each place.
Like, more power to you Will if you want to move. You know better want you want than us. :p
Plus you seem very informed. I'm talking more about the average teen on the internet who seems to want to believe that any place that's not where they are is so much better. It's just not true for most people living in industrialized western first world countries. They're all so similar, :p
I want to point out again that I am not expecting some grand life or for my situation to be much different.
Edit: In fact, I don't even know what the 'romaticised vision' of English life is. If I don't go to university there I'll probably never go there, because from an uneducated tourist perspective I don't see anything really appealing.
Yea, I edited that when I saw your post. Didn't really mean to imply I was talking about you there anyway. Moreso just people I see across the web, lol
Well if your situation isn't going to be different, then why are you so intent on going?
edit: Phils, I don't think that's an internet teen thing, that's just a typical teen thing. After being around the country, it's fairly common irl.
(07-11-2013, 04:38 AM)Grungie Wrote: [ -> ]Well if your situation isn't going to be different, then why are you so intent on going?
edit: Phils, I don't think that's an internet teen thing, that's just a typical teen thing. After being around the country, it's fairly common irl.
Yea, that's true. I don't actually know why I wrote internet, haha
I would actually love to live in a lot of places in Europe. Not because they seem "better" places to live or anything but because they really fit what I love world wise. Like in the terrain and stuff like that and the people seem cool. Most European cultures are pretty neat. Nordic countries seem awesome as do some Mediterranean places. I don't know, I've just always really liked that stuff. I'm not attached to the US at all except for my family. Like I don't really care about it as a country and a lot of the places don't actually appeal to me as places to live. Like, I really wouldn't want to live out of the northeast or parts of California, lol.
But I'll never move because I would just miss my family and everyone I know way to much. And I would honestly feel like an gigantic ass leaving them.
I thought about looking into stuff like semesters abroad but I'll never do it so it doesn't really matter. I'll just get ridiculously homesick and I'm not exactly great at making new friends. Not that I don't talk to people. Just that I haven't gone out of my way to do it in a long time because I've had no desire to since I don't need anymore friends goddammit :haha:
I probably wouldn't move to the Midwest, I don't really like people from there, after living there and running into people irl from the Midwest, they seem like nice people, but they always are a little off. I have no idea why.
Also I can't stand people from Chicago, every person I meet from Chicago is extremely arrogant and never EVER shuts up about how Chicago is the greatest place on the planet and everything from the piss in the toilet to the dirt on the ground is better than anything you've ever seen. I feel that there must be some kind of law where you have to never stop bragging about Chicago if you're from there.
(07-11-2013, 04:38 AM)Grungie Wrote: [ -> ]Well if your situation isn't going to be different, then why are you so intent on going?
'Cause better education. I am not currently planning on settlement or anything at the moment; but I have educated myself on the topic in case I do once there.
I don't even really see it as a different country in many ways, the common language and cultural similarities is also an appeal; I am not too concerned I won't be able to fit in.
I also feel I would be happier living in the cities that the schools I am applying are located in than where I am currently living. Before you throw up in your mouth because I'm dreaming of living in some far away cities, let me explain. When I lived in Salt Lake City, which has a reputation for being relatively 'cultured', even if it is nothing near London or New York or whatever, had a lot of romanticised tourism stuff. It's not like I was in awe at the Mormon temples or mountain scenery everyday since I lived there, but I was happier there than I am here in Tucson. To add to this point, I one of the schools I am applying to is Manchester, which at first didn't even have an appeal to me. I've always assumed it's just England's version of Detroit. But now that I've actually looked into what living there is like, the individual neighbourhoods, etc., I think it could be better (I don't mean objectively 'better') than where I currently reside (obviously I don't know yet). With that said, I'd rather live in a good part of American than an average part of England, and I wouldn't even be planning on going if I didn't have a pull factor like prestigious schools.
I have a feeling you're still going to think I'm dumb since it's difficult to explain but I think Phils knows me well enough to understand. :p
Edit: I have never wanted to live in or even visit Chicago. I don't see the appeal.