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(05-10-2013, 10:34 AM)Mr Maps Wrote: [ -> ]Think about it, think of these people who have supposedly achieved so much. Imagine how much you think they've done with their life. Now, think of how much they've actually done with their life. Is it really that much?

It's not that they have or have not achieved much, but rather their potentiality. And I know some people that yes, they've achieved a lot and are younger than me.

If I could I would go back to when I was ten and beat my younger self up for giving up piano lessons.

(05-10-2013, 10:34 AM)Mr Maps Wrote: [ -> ]Alright, let's say hypothetically you haven't achieved anything. That your life has been wasted. Why was it wasted? What stopped you from 'achieving'?

I guess everyone has a different personal goal in life, and that not achieving that goal would mean failure. I have a few goals, but my main one would be to be accomplished. Having done many good things for the world and being remembered for my achievements. Heck, I'd just like to be a good role model that knows a lot like Copernicus or Da Vinci. Doesn't help that I was an idiot in highschool that didn't see the importance of knowledge and education and couldn't care less about school. Now I struggle with it despite my efforts and wanting to be educated.

It's extremely frustrating seeing other people get 80s and 90s everywhere and I can barely get 80 in my stronger classes despite my conscious effort and will.

(05-10-2013, 12:12 PM)debbie Wrote: [ -> ]Pfff, that's just a really good memory, doesn't make it useful. My significant other is like that, but I'm way more practical than he is. He might have more knowledge of a lot of things, but it doesn't mean jack shit if you can't apply it. You will never use ALL the info.

True, but I'm particularly bad with memory. I can barely remember the plot to a game I played a while back or a movie I saw a couple years ago, just the really superficial details. That's the weird thing; I'll remember the date of someone's birthday but barely the festivities themselves.

What about students who retain absolutely everything they learn? If you ask me how to calculate the cotangent of a certain triangle with certain given measurements, I'll be stumped, whereas some people will just go "oh yeah, I learned that in school ten years ago, here it's like this. Also I've read this, this, this, and that book and the plots are these. And this is how photosynthesis works. Also let me explain to you what valence is in chemistry". I remember practically nothing from highschool with the exception of perhaps French and English rules (which we study every year even in college), basic algebra and one or two book plots. I think it's due to my lack of passion because I enjoy reading about philosophy and religion and I remember things.

How do I make myself enjoy things more? This is another issue of mine and I envy people who will appreciate absolutely everything. Like, I don't understand how people enjoy watching sports but I've always sort of wanted to because it looks like fun and maybe I'd remember things better if I did.

(05-10-2013, 01:22 PM)crazysam23 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm 24, and I still haven't graduated from a 4 year school. Granted, I worked for a while and all that, but my point is that age doesn't really matter in terms of achievement. You've plenty of time to achieve lots of great things, man; don't try to rush yourself. Work hard, but enjoy life.

I still have a hard time with the "enjoy life" part if 90% of my life is school and work. I'm definitely for carpe diem but it seems so difficult for me. I also want my name to appear in history books, making my mark, preferably through music but I'm not even sure I want to tour anymore, and I can't wait until I'm 40 to decide that. Best I could do is write scores for movies and games. Still, I think that to an extent, you're right, age isn't too much of a big deal for certain things, but it is when it comes to anything related to physical health or cognitive functions and the fact that I'll get old and gray and less capable scares me.


All in all, thanks for the words, guys. I feel a bit like a burden because I post a lot in here, especially for things that may seem asinine and superficial, and past experience shows me that apparently people get tired of dealing with this sort of stuff, friendships weaken, wars erupt, suns explode and Vishnu destroys the world.

So apparently it seems that not only am I not allowed to sleep in my own bed, but I don't get to sleep at all; it's past 1 AM and my brother and his friends are still up and loud as shit and my parents are cool with it. Heck, I was already sleeping on the sofa and now I'm wide awake because they decided to come upstairs and talk as if they were through bullhorns and one of their moms came to pick her son up like half an hour ago and so on and so forth.

Why? Because my brother who doesn't deserve it is celebrating his birthday, belatedly, because he's normally a little brat and wasn't originally permitted a party but acted (and I use the following term generously) nice for a couple weeks so my parents allowed him to invite an entire armada of children today (yesterday), only for him to become a little brat again when they're going to leave.

This happens every year and I am absolutely baffled as to why my parents constantly accept to do this. The prioritization in this household is absolutely fucked up. And you know what, screw it, I'm going to say it; despite everything, I'm convinced my parents like me better. It's not easy to like my brother and I don't understand how he has this many friends.

EDIT: 3 AM. Feeling like death. Great. All I am is bitch, complain, rant, woe. There is no solution to anything in my life right now. I bet I'll eventually stop getting help from you guys as well.

I've been away for the weekend at my girlfriend's and when i came back on sunday i was informed of something that shocked me...

To cut a long story short, when i was in elementary school i was a very shy and lonely kid, i only had a few friends, one of them was with me since early kindergarden and we were very close. in 5'th grade when i moved to a different school we kinda drifted apart. Apparently a few days ago he was hit by a drunk driver...

I really am shocked, it's like hearing someone from another life of yours just died...

I don't even know what to feel

What the fuck dude o_O

Sorry to hear that, man :\

That is weird. I can't imagine a feeling appropriate for hearing that this one guy I was friends with in 6th grade or something had died. Or, you know, something like that.

Ouch man, I'm sorry. :rape: (take this as a hug, not rape)


Joel, you're setting your goals too high. Accomplishment is a meaningless term, and anyway, it takes time, man. There a plenty of people who weren't successful until later life. Off the top of my head, there's Seasick Steve, who didn't become a successful musician until his 60s. And he lived a lot of his is life as a hobo. And everyone's pretty useless when they're a kid. When your a kid, you don't care about the future, and you're not interesting in being the nest Da Vinci, y'know? And you've identified that you haven't been as accomplished as you want to, right? So that's a success in itself. You want to rectify the situation, and there's nothing stopping you from doing so. It's silly to dwell on the past - it can't be changed. Look, the point is, it's never too late. Particularly in your case.

(05-14-2013, 01:20 PM)JoelCarli Wrote: [ -> ]What the fuck dude o_O

Sorry to hear that, man :\

That is weird. I can't imagine a feeling appropriate for hearing that this one guy I was friends with in 6th grade or something had died. Or, you know, something like that.

The hard thing for me is, that i can't even seem to realise what happened, it's been a couple days now and this is all i've thinking about but it hasn't sunk in yet.

And it's the weirdest feeling knowing someone who played a very important role in your early life just died and you don't feel sad or anything, just shocked and confused.

Everybody tells me they understand my sadness, they understand it's hard, they understand i need some time to grief. But tbh i feel nothing of that sort. Idk, this has just fucked me up a bit, i really just don't know

People deal with grief in their own way. Very sorry to hear about your friend. :rape:

(05-14-2013, 01:21 PM)Mr Maps Wrote: [ -> ]Joel, you're setting your goals too high. Accomplishment is a meaningless term, and anyway, it takes time, man. There a plenty of people who weren't successful until later life. Off the top of my head, there's Seasick Steve, who didn't become a successful musician until his 60s. And he lived a lot of his is life as a hobo. And everyone's pretty useless when they're a kid. When your a kid, you don't care about the future, and you're not interesting in being the nest Da Vinci, y'know? And you've identified that you haven't been as accomplished as you want to, right? So that's a success in itself. You want to rectify the situation, and there's nothing stopping you from doing so. It's silly to dwell on the past - it can't be changed. Look, the point is, it's never too late. Particularly in your case.

You're right. Thanks. My first example of a late bloomer would have been Alan Rickman who got his first movie role (Hans Gruber) when he was 42.

I can't help but still be a jealous of people that are 1) younger than me, AND 2) more skilled, talented, and educated, though, and they seem relatively common.

You're right, I should just go ahead and keep learning and practicing different trades. That's why I started the Polymath Thread in the first place. I guess I probably feel bad because despite my efforts I still manage to have bad grades in school. I took a professional IQ test the other day and got 139 as a result and I couldn't believe it; I work hard for school and still manage mediocre (at best) grades.

Still, apparently it gets harder to learn things as you get older, so that's something I'm not exactly warmed up to.

(05-14-2013, 01:31 PM)Adam Wrote: [ -> ]The hard thing for me is, that i can't even seem to realise what happened, it's been a couple days now and this is all i've thinking about but it hasn't sunk in yet.

And it's the weirdest feeling knowing someone who played a very important role in your early life just died and you don't feel sad or anything, just shocked and confused.

Everybody tells me they understand my sadness, they understand it's hard, they understand i need some time to grief. But tbh i feel nothing of that sort. Idk, this has just fucked me up a bit, i really just don't know

I think I know what you mean. If an elementary school friend of mine passed away, I'd probably feel bad for them and their family, but not necessarily sad, because I'm no longer close to them. I'd definitely feel weird about it though.

(05-14-2013, 06:45 PM)ln cognition Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, don't bring up that man where Sam's around. It's insensitive.
Also, this might also be somewhat insensitive, but weren't he an actor before that, just not in movies? I might be wrong, though, the dude is awesome either way.

:haha: How is it insensitive? As old as the "Hans Gruber" jokes are getting, that particular troll-fest is still funny.

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(05-14-2013, 01:31 PM)Adam Wrote: [ -> ]Everybody tells me they understand my sadness, they understand it's hard, they understand i need some time to grief. But tbh i feel nothing of that sort. Idk, this has just fucked me up a bit, i really just don't know

Yeah, I understand that feeling...
No, but seriously, I think I do. My emotional response to people passing away, even those very close to me, has always been almost depressingly small - like, I've almost been afraid that my lacking emotional response indicate that I'm a bad person. I think part/most of it is that I can't really comprehend what has happened in the beginning. Death is such an extremely alien concept in its intimate details that my emotions don't know how to grasp it. If you can get to his funeral, that might be a good idea, though? It can be a big help in finding some resolution, and emotional response.

yep. It's like, i can't comprehend death, death means you don't exist anymore, and all we really do is existing, you can't comprehend that. And i don't feel like i'm a bad person or lacking empathy for not being sad enough because of it, i know that this is how i deal with it.

But it's that feeling that he was my age, i've been in some dangerous situations before but i never took it seriously, it always seemed to worked out, that i eventually just ended up getting home safely. Looking back, i did some fucking stupid things in the past that could've got me killed, and he died by something completely out of his hands.

So yeah, besides that feeling of someone from another life of yours dying, this sort of fear is in my head all the time now