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So, a few English words. How exactly do they pass English class, again?

I mean, I was never hot at German (I took German in high school), but I could at least say the basics.
Idk, seems like they memorize enough to pass the tests or class. Though from my experience, their reading skills are good, but their speaking skills are godaweful, and a lot of people haven't progressed past "this is pen".
I'm just wondering how they actually consider that "passing". Like, aren't Japanese people all about getting excellent grades? So, yeah, maybe they get good grades in English class; but they're clearly not learning the language, if they can't progress past "this is pen". Wouldn't that bother a lot of kids/parents?
Well think about all the shit you learned in school that you forgot.

I took Spanish in high school, and I did really good in it, and outside of random words (mostly food related) I don't remember a damn thing from Spanish.

With regards to the "this is pen" thing, they learn English, but they don't teach them how to speak it. So they can get A's it B's in a written test, but fail the speaking test.

Also the part about Japanese people being about good grades is just that Asian stereotype. The kids give as little of a shit as American kids.
(08-03-2014, 01:35 PM)Grungie Wrote: [ -> ]With regards to the "this is pen" thing, they learn English, but they don't teach them how to speak it. So they can get A's it B's in a written test, but fail the speaking test.
That's my point.

Quote:Also the part about Japanese people being about good grades is just that Asian stereotype. The kids give as little of a shit as American kids.
I'm sure. It's hard to get kids to give a shit about that. Even so, I understand that it's a "point of honor" for the parents. Is it true that a kid who gets C's is considered a failure or something (barring extenuating circumstances)?
(08-03-2014, 04:52 PM)crazysam23 Wrote: [ -> ]That's my point.
well to be fair, they do that in the US with teaching foreign languages as well, you learn grammar rules, but never really learn how to speak it.

Quote:I'm sure. It's hard to get kids to give a shit about that. Even so, I understand that it's a "point of honor" for the parents. Is it true that a kid who gets C's is considered a failure or something (barring extenuating circumstances)?

Not really, your parents will just bitch at you, but that's nothing different from here Confusedhrug:
(08-03-2014, 05:07 PM)Grungie Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-03-2014, 04:52 PM)crazysam23 Wrote: [ -> ]That's my point.
well to be fair, they do that in the US with teaching foreign languages as well, you learn grammar rules, but never really learn how to speak it.
True, although I always had a problem with that in the US too.

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Quote:I'm sure. It's hard to get kids to give a shit about that. Even so, I understand that it's a "point of honor" for the parents. Is it true that a kid who gets C's is considered a failure or something (barring extenuating circumstances)?

Not really, your parents will just bitch at you, but that's nothing different from here Confusedhrug:
Well, ok. Still, it seems that Japanese kids seem to get more A's & B's than American kids do, on the whole.
Maybe their schools are just better.
I'm certain of that.
Well it's not entirely true, some parents do force their kids to go to cram school, so that does help increase grades.
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