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This may seem mild but I have had Vicinity of Obcenity stuck in my head all freakin' day!

All day in my head it' been:
Banana banana banana banana terracata banana terracata terracata pie
Banana banana banana banana terracata banana terracata terracata pie

Do we all learn defeat, from the whores with bad feet?


Ever since this morning that song has been stuck in my head. System of a Down is one of my favorite bands but that song in driving me insane!
That song was my obsession for like three weeks in high school
Sadly I accidentally bought the album used and it happened to be the censored version...

So I torrented the uncensored version.
This:



Is relevant to recent discussion here. I think it over-emphasises depression in teenage years - particularly early teenagers. I'd say many teenagers are more angsty/dissatisfied than out-and-out depressed. Sure, I know plenty who are/have been (myself included), but I think people do tend to confuse angst with depression. Thing is, there's a lack of empathy on both sides. Teenagers are completely inexperienced and much is new to them, so things that are really very minor seem huge - this coupled with other factors (like changes and whatnot) is a recipe to make them potentially horrible people. When people grow up a bit, go out into the real world, they realise how silly everything they thought was huge was, so they look down on those going through it currently (which is totally understandable, because teenagers have a tendency to moan about nothing while adults actually have bigger problems).

I have a pretty good life. Not anything major I can really complain about. A few things from the past maybe, but they're not really relevant any more, and seem pretty small nowadays, so I can't really complain. When I started getting really down, I figured it would just be a phase, which helped a bit, because it gave me some hope and allowed me to get on with things. I didn't really bother to do much about it outside of small things and when I didn't 'grow out of it' or whatever, it did the opposite of helping. I gave up. I used it as an excuse to do even less because I couldn't be bothered. So some attitudes can be detrimental.
Some people will claim they're depressed when they're not, which can lead to people who really are being ignored. It can also lead them to not doing anything about things they dislike, think 'it's a chemical imbalance, it's nothing I can change' so they don't. Same can happen with real depression, which shows that there are similarities between depression and teen angst, but they certainly are not the same - but I'm just iterating what you guys have said.

Essentially, it's a case-by-case thing.

I think people can get too caught up in teen depression - particularly teenagers themselves - which could be potentially dangerous, because the focus is lost where it's needed: in age groups with more real depression and higher suicide rates. Equally, dismissing what is potentially a serious mental illness as angst can be just as detrimental. Like I said, it's an individual thing to each case, but there doesn't seem to be as much teenager depression as some make out. You don't want to miss an actual case of it, but a lot of teenagers are just kinda... pathetic. Me included, though I think I have a better perspective of things than some I know. I have some of the less-than-likeable traits of typical teenagers, but I try to be as self-aware as possible and avoid them when I can. I think being here does help, because there is a good sense of well-balanced perspective here. At least I think so. Confusedhrug:

Basically, teens are a really shitty time because they're often not that shitty. Unless of course you had a good time, which I think most probably do largely, it's just easy to forget.
I can safely say that most people here agree that genre elitism is a terrible thing, but I will say it's also annoying when you meet people who are completely clueless on genres, then get offended when they say they love a certain genre, and none of the bands are of that genre.

So I was on a general discussion forum, and someone said she likes screamo. So I just asked "so do you listen to actual screamo, or stuff people commonly mistake as screamo?". She said she listens to real screamo, and proceeds to list popular Post-Hardcore and Metalcore bands.

I proceed to tell her none of those bands are actually screamo, and she gets really offended and responds with "I don't care what they fall under, I like what I like, I DO listen to real screamo!". Then she pulls her weapon that she believes strongly proves her point "I hate to be the one to tell you, but band do not just have one genre and this is where the confusion is".

Sorry, but that's a shitty answer.
For a second I came in here and read the first line as "gender elitism".

Yeah.
Yeah but that's not a terrible thing Joel...
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(04-29-2014, 08:35 PM)Grungie Wrote: [ -> ]I can safely say that most people here agree that genre elitism is a terrible thing, but I will say it's also annoying when you meet people who are completely clueless on genres, then get offended when they say they love a certain genre, and none of the bands are of that genre.

So I was on a general discussion forum, and someone said she likes screamo. So I just asked "so do you listen to actual screamo, or stuff people commonly mistake as screamo?". She said she listens to real screamo, and proceeds to list popular Post-Hardcore and Metalcore bands.

I proceed to tell her none of those bands are actually screamo, and she gets really offended and responds with "I don't care what they fall under, I like what I like, I DO listen to real screamo!". Then she pulls her weapon that she believes strongly proves her point "I hate to be the one to tell you, but band do not just have one genre and this is where the confusion is".

Sorry, but that's a shitty answer.
I would walk up, down, sideways, upside down, and all over that kind of fucking horrible argument.
Yeah, some people seem to get really butthurt when they find out their favorite whatever isn't the genre they think it is. This isn't just unique to music, there's butthurt that Zelda isn't an RPG and Avatar isn't anime.